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2041
#2041
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Setsul#2034
I assume the budget is 550$?
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B150M Pro4V Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($72.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Mushkin Essentials 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($47.99 @ Directron)
Storage: PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Jet)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 470 4GB Red Dragon Video Card ($178.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($43.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $553.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-08 06:50 EST-0500

I feel like you're spending too much money on mother board and ram. I think I could use the saved money to at least get a gtx 1060 or rx 480
Why the change in the case? I plan on putting the computer under my desk which I measured has 21 inches of clearance underneath.

[quote=Setsul]
#2034
I assume the budget is 550$?
[url=https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QsWbVY]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QsWbVY/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hV7CmG/intel-cpu-bx80662i36100]Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor[/url] ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tn648d/asrock-b150m-pro4v-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-b150m-pro4v]ASRock B150M Pro4V Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard[/url] ($72.89 @ OutletPC)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y9Gj4D/mushkin-memory-997182]Mushkin Essentials 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory[/url] ($47.99 @ Directron)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7v38TW/pny-internal-hard-drive-ssd7cs1311240rb]PNY CS1311 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($64.99 @ Jet)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rLbkcf/powercolor-radeon-rx-470-4gb-red-dragon-video-card-axrx470-4gbd5-3dhdv2oc]PowerColor Radeon RX 470 4GB Red Dragon Video Card[/url] ($178.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TkkD4D/fractal-design-case-fdcacore1100bl]Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case[/url] ($34.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zNK7YJ/evga-power-supply-100b10500kr]EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($43.89 @ OutletPC)
[b]Total:[/b] $553.72
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-08 06:50 EST-0500[/i]

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I feel like you're spending too much money on mother board and ram. I think I could use the saved money to at least get a gtx 1060 or rx 480
Why the change in the case? I plan on putting the computer under my desk which I measured has 21 inches of clearance underneath.
2042
#2042
4 Frags +

#2040
Looks good.
Worst case if the 7700 takes too long to get cheaper you can still get the 6700K.

As for the case: Fractal Design Core 1100 or Cooler Master N200 or something like that?

#2041
Show me how you're getting at least a 480 on that budget.
I don't think the 6$ for Dual Channel will break your budget.
Cheaping out on the mobo is your choice, it's not like it's important or anything.

The case is just a suggestion, but unless your inches are significantly smaller than the inches everyone else uses it would fit.

#2040
Looks good.
Worst case if the 7700 takes too long to get cheaper you can still get the 6700K.

As for the case: Fractal Design Core 1100 or Cooler Master N200 or something like that?

#2041
Show me how you're getting at least a 480 on that budget.
I don't think the 6$ for Dual Channel will break your budget.
Cheaping out on the mobo is your choice, it's not like it's important or anything.

The case is just a suggestion, but unless your inches are significantly smaller than the inches everyone else uses it would fit.
2043
#2043
4 Frags +

wow 7700 out now for only 325 euro so the build should be finished:

cpu: http://www.taocomputer.eu/shop2007/scheda.asp?id=36762 i7-7700 (325)
gpu : http://www.taocomputer.eu/shop2007/scheda.asp?id=34936 Radeon RX 480 Gaming X 8G (283)
mobo: http://www.taocomputer.eu/shop2007/scheda.asp?id=33597 MB Intel 1151 ASRock B150M Pro4S (70)
psu: http://www.taocomputer.eu/shop2007/scheda.asp?id=34751 PSU 450W Corsair CX450M (50)
rams : https://www.amazon.it/Corsair-CMK32GX4M2A2400C14-Vengeance-Memoria-Performance/dp/B0134EU9YA/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1483919910&sr=8-5&keywords=ddr4+2400 (32GB --->160 euro)
ssd: http://www.taocomputer.eu/shop2007/scheda.asp?id=32561 Samsung 850 EVO (92)
hdd: http://www.taocomputer.eu/shop2007/scheda.asp?id=26156 HD SEAGATE 3.5" 1000GB Barracuda (51)
case: http://www.taocomputer.eu/shop2007/scheda.asp?id=33759 Fractal Design CORE 1100 (43)
total : 1070 euro

Thanks, ur help was awesome. U made me save money and time. keep doin this terrific work !!!!

wow 7700 out now for only 325 euro so the build should be finished:

cpu: http://www.taocomputer.eu/shop2007/scheda.asp?id=36762 i7-7700 (325)
gpu : http://www.taocomputer.eu/shop2007/scheda.asp?id=34936 Radeon RX 480 Gaming X 8G (283)
mobo: http://www.taocomputer.eu/shop2007/scheda.asp?id=33597 MB Intel 1151 ASRock B150M Pro4S (70)
psu: http://www.taocomputer.eu/shop2007/scheda.asp?id=34751 PSU 450W Corsair CX450M (50)
rams : https://www.amazon.it/Corsair-CMK32GX4M2A2400C14-Vengeance-Memoria-Performance/dp/B0134EU9YA/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1483919910&sr=8-5&keywords=ddr4+2400 (32GB --->160 euro)
ssd: http://www.taocomputer.eu/shop2007/scheda.asp?id=32561 Samsung 850 EVO (92)
hdd: http://www.taocomputer.eu/shop2007/scheda.asp?id=26156 HD SEAGATE 3.5" 1000GB Barracuda (51)
case: http://www.taocomputer.eu/shop2007/scheda.asp?id=33759 Fractal Design CORE 1100 (43)
total : 1070 euro

Thanks, ur help was awesome. U made me save money and time. keep doin this terrific work !!!!
2044
#2044
1 Frags +

I like it when my predictions are correct.
Saved you 5€, not a whole lot, but 5€ are 5€.

Have fun with the build!

I like it when my predictions are correct.
Saved you 5€, not a whole lot, but 5€ are 5€.

Have fun with the build!
2045
#2045
0 Frags +

is it worth getting z270 or is z170 good enough for i7 7700k

is it worth getting z270 or is z170 good enough for i7 7700k
2046
#2046
0 Frags +

You need to update the BIOS on Z170 mobos and that's it.
There's exactly two differences between Z170 and Z270. Z270 got:
-4 more PCIe 3.0 lanes, which you won't need because most mobos don't even have enough slots to use them and
-support for for Intel Optane Memory which you will neither need nor can you afford it.

So no difference really, but they had to add something, can't just rerelease the same chipset.

You need to update the BIOS on Z170 mobos and that's it.
There's exactly two differences between Z170 and Z270. Z270 got:
-4 more PCIe 3.0 lanes, which you won't need because most mobos don't even have enough slots to use them and
-support for for Intel Optane Memory which you will neither need nor can you afford it.

So no difference really, but they had to add something, can't just rerelease the same chipset.
2047
#2047
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Setsul#2023
Yes, I understand, but what about an Office Suite that doesn't cost 120$? Spending more than a third of your budget on software seems slightly excessive when there's free alternatives for both.

Ok, talked with her and she is fine dropping the Microsoft Office. Would like to keep the budget at $500. Here is the list as it stands: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/saam/saved/YdGkLk

[quote=Setsul]
#2023
Yes, I understand, but what about an Office Suite that doesn't cost 120$? Spending more than a third of your budget on software seems slightly excessive when there's free alternatives for both.
[/quote]


Ok, talked with her and she is fine dropping the Microsoft Office. Would like to keep the budget at $500. Here is the list as it stands: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/saam/saved/YdGkLk
2048
#2048
0 Frags +
SetsulThe V300 is the SSD antichrist.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B150M Pro4V Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Essentials 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($47.99 @ Directron)
Storage: SK hynix SL308 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.60 @ OutletPC)
Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($25.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Power Supply: EVGA 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($38.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.80 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Total: $493.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-11 08:36 EST-0500

I'd definitely change the SSD.
Then either get a 250GB SSD, maybe drop the HDD, if 250 or 500GB are enough for her then SSD only is easier.

The other option is changing the mobo and RAM. Won't do anything for performance probably, it's just a reliability/upgradeability thing.

[quote=Setsul]
The V300 is the SSD antichrist.
[/quote]

[url=https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xTnNBP]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xTnNBP/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hV7CmG/intel-cpu-bx80662i36100]Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor[/url] ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tn648d/asrock-b150m-pro4v-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-b150m-pro4v]ASRock B150M Pro4V Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard[/url] ($70.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y9Gj4D/mushkin-memory-997182]Mushkin Essentials 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory[/url] ($47.99 @ Directron)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/D28H99/sk-hynix-sl308-120gb-25-solid-state-drive-hfs120g32tnd-n1a2a]SK hynix SL308 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dCxfrH/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($48.60 @ OutletPC)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dwsKHx/rosewill-case-fbm01]Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case[/url] ($25.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfvZxr/evga-450w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-100-b1-0450-k1]EVGA 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($38.49 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2v9KHx/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1stblkbas]Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($18.80 @ OutletPC)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wtgPxr/microsoft-os-kw900140]Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit[/url] ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
[b]Total:[/b] $493.41
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-11 08:36 EST-0500[/i]

I'd definitely change the SSD.
Then either get a 250GB SSD, maybe drop the HDD, if 250 or 500GB are enough for her then SSD only is easier.

The other option is changing the mobo and RAM. Won't do anything for performance probably, it's just a reliability/upgradeability thing.
2049
#2049
0 Frags +

If I were to do just an SSD would you recommend this one?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x28H99/sandisk-ssd-plus-480gb-25-solid-state-drive-sdssda-480g-g26

500gb would definitely be enough

If I were to do just an SSD would you recommend this one?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x28H99/sandisk-ssd-plus-480gb-25-solid-state-drive-sdssda-480g-g26

500gb would definitely be enough
2050
#2050
0 Frags +

i3 7350K hype?

If, of course, it goes down in price

i3 7350K hype?

If, of course, it goes down in price
2051
#2051
2 Frags +

#2049
I'd go with https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w6DzK8/sk-hynix-sl308-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-hfs500g32tnd-n1a2a
or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2VWrxr/crucial-mx300-525gb-25-solid-state-drive-ct525mx300ssd1
whichever is cheaper.

#2050
Going by MSRP the i3-7350K is literally just 2$ closer to the i3-7100 (cheapest i3, clocked 0.3 GHz lower) than to the i5-7600K. For those 64$ would you rather have e.g. a good 250GB SSD or 2 more cores?
For anything multithreaded even the i5-7400 (3$ more) wins most of the time.
The hype is rather limited.

Intel is going absolutely crazy with market segmentation now. All i3s used to support ECC, now it's only special version with the exact same spec and price except with gimped graphics. Wouldn't want anyone using those for low end workstations, if you want single threaded performance and ECC and a decent iGPU you better buy a >300$ Xeon. Also those E versions only exist for the two slowest models. Otherwise they'd be almost be on par multithreaded with the cheapest Xeons and we wouldn't want anyone saving 50$. Even worse they'd beat >400$ Xeons single threaded. Can't have that, can we?

In other news the official launch date for Zen appears to be mid February, OEMs first and going by what I've heard they'll hog most of the supply for a few months.

#2049
I'd go with https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w6DzK8/sk-hynix-sl308-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-hfs500g32tnd-n1a2a
or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2VWrxr/crucial-mx300-525gb-25-solid-state-drive-ct525mx300ssd1
whichever is cheaper.



#2050
Going by MSRP the i3-7350K is literally just 2$ closer to the i3-7100 (cheapest i3, clocked 0.3 GHz lower) than to the i5-7600K. For those 64$ would you rather have e.g. a good 250GB SSD or 2 more cores?
For anything multithreaded even the i5-7400 (3$ more) wins most of the time.
The hype is rather limited.

Intel is going absolutely crazy with market segmentation now. All i3s used to support ECC, now it's only special version with the exact same spec and price except with gimped graphics. Wouldn't want anyone using those for low end workstations, if you want single threaded performance and ECC and a decent iGPU you better buy a >300$ Xeon. Also those E versions only exist for the two slowest models. Otherwise they'd be almost be on par multithreaded with the cheapest Xeons and we wouldn't want anyone saving 50$. Even worse they'd beat >400$ Xeons single threaded. Can't have that, can we?

In other news the official launch date for Zen appears to be mid February, OEMs first and going by what I've heard they'll hog most of the supply for a few months.
2052
#2052
0 Frags +

I'm the person who wanted to play melee and TF2 (on linux). I've started to put together a parts list.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($495.00 @ Umart)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($58.00 @ Shopping Express)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($124.00 @ Shopping Express)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($599.00 @ Scorptec)
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.00 @ PLE Computers)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($399.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $1824.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-15 11:28 AEDT+1100

I have no idea how to choose a motherboard, CPU cooler or power supply.
I'm not really sure about the monitor or GPU either. I don't know if the 1070 is excessive.
Will I need a sound card or network adapter?
Is there a reason you like microATX cases setsul?

I'm the person who wanted to play melee and TF2 (on linux). I've started to put together a parts list.
[url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/z2Tf2R]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/z2Tf2R/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/VKx9TW/intel-core-i7-7700k-42ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80677i77700k]Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($495.00 @ Umart)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/TTnG3C/crucial-memory-ct8g4dfs8213]Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory[/url] ($58.00 @ Shopping Express)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/3kL7YJ/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($124.00 @ Shopping Express)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/4XyxFT/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-windforce-oc-video-card-gv-n1070wf2oc-8gd]Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card[/url] ($599.00 @ Scorptec)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/3TYWGX/nzxt-ca-s340w-b3-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-s340w-b3]NZXT S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($149.00 @ PLE Computers)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/rkphP6/asus-monitor-vg248qe]Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor[/url] ($399.00 @ Mwave Australia)
[b]Total:[/b] $1824.00
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-15 11:28 AEDT+1100[/i]

I have no idea how to choose a motherboard, CPU cooler or power supply.
I'm not really sure about the monitor or GPU either. I don't know if the 1070 is excessive.
Will I need a sound card or network adapter?
Is there a reason you like microATX cases setsul?
2053
#2053
2 Frags +

We'll get on that.

I'd get a BenQ Zowie XL2411 instead. It's identical to the BenQ XL2411Z but not listed in pcpartpicker. That is, if you want Lightboost. If you want FreeSync there's the AOC G2460PF.
The 1070 is indeed excessive and with the mobo, cooler and PSU you'd be over budget. The 7700K is overkill too though. The 7350K is an option, but not that much cheaper. You also don't have to overclock if you don't really need that much performance.

You won't need either. If you have good headphones you might want to get a soundcard, if they are very hard to drive or just very good maybe an external DAC/amp, but that's a whole new can of worms. Unless you want wifi (mobos with wifi are rare) a network adapter is a waste of money.

MicroATX cases are smaller and therefore cheaper. They are also smaller. Unless you want more than 2 GPUs or other things there is no need for full ATX.

Rough idea for now, until you've decided on overclocking, the case and the monitor.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($348.00 @ Shopping Express)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock Z270M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($189.00 @ IJK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($155.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($124.00 @ Shopping Express)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($379.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.00 @ PLE Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($110.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Monitor: BenQ XL2411Z 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($399.00)
Total: $1942.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-17 01:04 AEDT+1100

We'll get on that.

I'd get a BenQ Zowie XL2411 instead. It's identical to the BenQ XL2411Z but not listed in pcpartpicker. That is, if you want Lightboost. If you want FreeSync there's the AOC G2460PF.
The 1070 is indeed excessive and with the mobo, cooler and PSU you'd be over budget. The 7700K is overkill too though. The 7350K is an option, but not that much cheaper. You also don't have to overclock if you don't really need that much performance.

You won't need either. If you have good headphones you might want to get a soundcard, if they are very hard to drive or just very good maybe an external DAC/amp, but that's a whole new can of worms. Unless you want wifi (mobos with wifi are rare) a network adapter is a waste of money.

MicroATX cases are smaller and therefore cheaper. They are also smaller. Unless you want more than 2 GPUs or other things there is no need for full ATX.

Rough idea for now, until you've decided on overclocking, the case and the monitor.
[url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/vckY2R]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/vckY2R/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/dQM323/intel-core-i5-7600k-38ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80677i57600k]Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($348.00 @ Shopping Express)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/YwGkcf/be-quiet-cpu-cooler-bk018]be quiet! Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler[/url] ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/bqVBD3/asrock-z270m-pro4-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-z270m-pro4]ASRock Z270M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard[/url] ($189.00 @ IJK)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/zRkwrH/gskill-memory-f43000c15d16gvr]G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory[/url] ($155.00 @ Umart)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/3kL7YJ/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($124.00 @ Shopping Express)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/W34NnQ/gigabyte-radeon-rx-480-8gb-g1-gaming-video-card-gv-rx480g1-gaming-8gd]Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card[/url] ($379.00 @ Shopping Express)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/3TYWGX/nzxt-ca-s340w-b3-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-s340w-b3]NZXT S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($149.00 @ PLE Computers)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/xVkD4D/seasonic-power-supply-ssr450rm]SeaSonic 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($110.00 @ Mwave Australia)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/GbNp99/benq-monitor-xl2411z]BenQ XL2411Z 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor[/url] ($399.00)
[b]Total:[/b] $1942.00
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-17 01:04 AEDT+1100[/i]
2054
#2054
0 Frags +

Hi guyz i'm about to buy a new monitor for my desktop pc .
I want one with this specs: full hd (1080), ips, led, low blue light, flicker free, response time < 8 ms, 24', (price ~ 200 euro)
A friend of mine told me that 75 hz monitor are not good and instead a 60 hz is most of the time better: is he saying bullshit or he knows what he's talking about?
these are three I selected:
https://www.amazon.it/Asus-vz249h-Monitor-reazione-colore/dp/B01HZZ12YK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484647214&sr=8-1&keywords=vz249h
https://www.amazon.it/Dell-P2417H-LCD-Monitor-23-8/dp/B01F80F6ZA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1484647475&sr=1-1&keywords=p2417h
https://www.amazon.it/Asus-BE249QLB-Monitor-1920x1080-Certified/dp/B016AWG0UA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484647909&sr=8-1&keywords=BE249QLB (optimal frequency 76 hz is that strange???)
What would u chose no matter the price? (or maybe have a better alternative to suggest?) ^^

thanks and have a good day

Hi guyz i'm about to buy a new monitor for my desktop pc .
I want one with this specs: full hd (1080), ips, led, low blue light, flicker free, response time < 8 ms, 24', (price ~ 200 euro)
A friend of mine told me that 75 hz monitor are not good and instead a 60 hz is most of the time better: is he saying bullshit or he knows what he's talking about?
these are three I selected:
https://www.amazon.it/Asus-vz249h-Monitor-reazione-colore/dp/B01HZZ12YK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484647214&sr=8-1&keywords=vz249h
https://www.amazon.it/Dell-P2417H-LCD-Monitor-23-8/dp/B01F80F6ZA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1484647475&sr=1-1&keywords=p2417h
https://www.amazon.it/Asus-BE249QLB-Monitor-1920x1080-Certified/dp/B016AWG0UA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484647909&sr=8-1&keywords=BE249QLB (optimal frequency 76 hz is that strange???)
What would u chose no matter the price? (or maybe have a better alternative to suggest?) ^^

thanks and have a good day
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#2055
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SetsulWell get on that.

I'd get a BenQ Zowie XL2411 instead. It's identical to the BenQ XL2411Z but not listed in pcpartpicker. That is, if you want Lightboost. If you want FreeSync there's the AOC G2460PF.
The 1070 is indeed excessive and with the mobo, cooler and PSU you'd be over budget. The 7700K is overkill too though. The 7350K is an option, but not that much cheaper. You also don't have to overclock if you don't really need that much performance.

You won't need either. If you have good headphones you might want to get a soundcard, if they are very hard to drive or just very good maybe an external DAC/amp, but that's a whole new can of worms. Unless you want wifi (mobos with wifi are rare) a network adapter is a waste of money.

MicroATX cases are smaller and therefore cheaper. They are also smaller. Unless you want more than 2 GPUs or other things there is no need for full ATX.

Rough idea for now, until you're decided on overclocking, the case and the monitor.
...

I'll get the BenQ and the cheaper version of the case I linked before.
I'm happy to overclock.
A lot of people online say that nvidia is better than amd for linux. Although I couldn't find any super recent sources, I'm leaning towards getting nvidia. Is there an equivalent nvidia gpu (in terms of performance and price) to the amd one you suggested?

[quote=Setsul]Well get on that.

I'd get a BenQ Zowie XL2411 instead. It's identical to the BenQ XL2411Z but not listed in pcpartpicker. That is, if you want Lightboost. If you want FreeSync there's the AOC G2460PF.
The 1070 is indeed excessive and with the mobo, cooler and PSU you'd be over budget. The 7700K is overkill too though. The 7350K is an option, but not that much cheaper. You also don't have to overclock if you don't really need that much performance.

You won't need either. If you have good headphones you might want to get a soundcard, if they are very hard to drive or just very good maybe an external DAC/amp, but that's a whole new can of worms. Unless you want wifi (mobos with wifi are rare) a network adapter is a waste of money.

MicroATX cases are smaller and therefore cheaper. They are also smaller. Unless you want more than 2 GPUs or other things there is no need for full ATX.

Rough idea for now, until you're decided on overclocking, the case and the monitor.
...
[/quote]

I'll get the BenQ and the cheaper version of the case I linked before.
I'm happy to overclock.
A lot of people online say that nvidia is better than amd for linux. Although I couldn't find any super recent sources, I'm leaning towards getting nvidia. Is there an equivalent nvidia gpu (in terms of performance and price) to the amd one you suggested?
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#2056
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#2054
"Low blue light" is a marketing gimmick, you can just turn down blue in the colour settings or use f.lux, which doesn't fuck up the colour balance as bad.
There is nothing wrong with 75 Hz. But 30/60 fps videos will look like they're stuttering (the same happens with 24 fps videos on a Hz monitor though).

Out of these I'd get the Dell P2417H.

#2055
I guess we can leave it like this then. Which cheaper version of the case though?
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/5gf0fk/amd_vs_nvidia_drivers_on_linux/
RX 480 ~ GTX 1060 6GB (3GB version is a different GPU)
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/gL98TW/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-g1-gaming-video-card-gv-n1060g1-gaming-6gd

#2054
"Low blue light" is a marketing gimmick, you can just turn down blue in the colour settings or use f.lux, which doesn't fuck up the colour balance as bad.
There is nothing wrong with 75 Hz. But 30/60 fps videos will look like they're stuttering (the same happens with 24 fps videos on a Hz monitor though).

Out of these I'd get the Dell P2417H.

#2055
I guess we can leave it like this then. Which cheaper version of the case though?
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/5gf0fk/amd_vs_nvidia_drivers_on_linux/
RX 480 ~ GTX 1060 6GB (3GB version is a different GPU)
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/gL98TW/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-g1-gaming-video-card-gv-n1060g1-gaming-6gd
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#2057
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@Saam Doesn't a company provide you with the software, or if she goes to a school it's usually offered as free software.

@Saam Doesn't a company provide you with the software, or if she goes to a school it's usually offered as free software.
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#2058
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Actually I'll stick with the case I linked before because I need the additional usb ports.
Reading the reddit thread and a few benchmarks it doesn't sound like AMD is too far behind and the driver being open source is nice so I'll go with the rx480.
That means it's identical to what you listed before. Shall I pull the trigger and buy the parts?

Actually I'll stick with the case I linked before because I need the additional usb ports.
Reading the reddit thread and a few benchmarks it doesn't sound like AMD is too far behind and the driver being open source is nice so I'll go with the rx480.
That means it's identical to what you listed before. Shall I pull the trigger and buy the parts?
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#2059
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Hey I have like a potential 500 USD budget can somone give me a partlists for a pc that would be better than an acer aspire v17 (2 years and a few months old)

Hey I have like a potential 500 USD budget can somone give me a partlists for a pc that would be better than an acer aspire v17 (2 years and a few months old)
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#2060
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SerendipityHey I have like a potential 500 USD budget can somone give me a partlists for a pc that would be better than an acer aspire v17 (2 years and a few months old)

what are you looking to play?

[quote=Serendipity]Hey I have like a potential 500 USD budget can somone give me a partlists for a pc that would be better than an acer aspire v17 (2 years and a few months old)[/quote]
what are you looking to play?
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#2061
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sibbyowlcometSerendipityHey I have like a potential 500 USD budget can somone give me a partlists for a pc that would be better than an acer aspire v17 (2 years and a few months old)what are you looking to play?

tf2/csgo and sometimes skyrim and other RPG's

the first 2 with 120-144 frames min. ideally, the latter with somewhere around 60

[quote=sibbyowlcomet][quote=Serendipity]Hey I have like a potential 500 USD budget can somone give me a partlists for a pc that would be better than an acer aspire v17 (2 years and a few months old)[/quote]
what are you looking to play?[/quote]
tf2/csgo and sometimes skyrim and other RPG's

the first 2 with 120-144 frames min. ideally, the latter with somewhere around 60
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#2062
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#2058
What additional USB ports? 2x USB 3.0 + 2x USB 2.0 on the front panel is about as standard as it gets.

#2059/2061
Any parts you'll be reusing?
Current specs?

#2058
What additional USB ports? 2x USB 3.0 + 2x USB 2.0 on the front panel is about as standard as it gets.

#2059/2061
Any parts you'll be reusing?
Current specs?
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#2063
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I decided to build a PC for TF2 and CSGO since I realized 40 fps on badlands mid in a 6s game and max 30 fps on dust 2 in a 5v5 game is too low.

This PC is perfect for source games and its able to run some newer games on high settings at a stable 60 fps

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core ($60 on amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO ($35 on Newegg)
MoBo: ASRock H110M-HDS LGA 1151 Intel H110 (If you are going to build this PC yourself and wish to go with an i5 or i7 get a different mobo, $47 on Newegg)
Ram/Memory: CORSAIR ValueSelect 8GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2133 ($55 on Newegg)
Storage: SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5" 250GB SATA III 3-D Vertical Internal SSD ($100 on Newegg)
GPU: RX 460 2gb (I've seen this card go for $90 to $150 so if you are going to build this PC look around on amazon and Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox 5 ($62 on Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 500 B1 100-B1-0500-KR 80+ BRONZE 500W ($40 on Newegg)

TOTAL: $504 (buying at highest prices, you can probably find some of these parts for cheaper somewhere on amazon/ebay and you can save $50 by going for a HDD instead of an SSD)
PC Part Picker List.

I decided to build a PC for TF2 and CSGO since I realized 40 fps on badlands mid in a 6s game and max 30 fps on dust 2 in a 5v5 game is too low.

This PC is [b]perfect[/b] for source games and its able to run some newer games on high settings at a stable 60 fps

CPU: [url=https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015VPX05A/?tag=teamfortresst-20]Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core[/url] ($60 on amazon)
CPU Cooler: [url=https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099] Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO[/url] ($35 on Newegg)
MoBo: [url=https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157685]ASRock H110M-HDS LGA 1151 Intel H110[/url] (If you are going to build this PC yourself and wish to go with an i5 or i7 get a different mobo, $47 on Newegg)
Ram/Memory: [url=https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1K64YR1375]CORSAIR ValueSelect 8GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2133[/url] ($55 on Newegg)
Storage: [url=https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147372]SAMSUNG 850 EVO 2.5" 250GB SATA III 3-D Vertical Internal SSD[/url] ($100 on Newegg)
GPU: [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sL98TW/asus-radeon-rx-460-2gb-dual-oc-video-card-dual-rx460-o2g]RX 460 2gb[/url] (I've seen this card go for $90 to $150 so if you are going to build this PC look around on amazon and Newegg)
Case: [url=https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119314] Cooler Master MasterBox 5[/url] ($62 on Newegg)
Power Supply: [url=https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438012]EVGA 500 B1 100-B1-0500-KR 80+ BRONZE 500W[/url] ($40 on Newegg)

[b]TOTAL: $504[/b] (buying at highest prices, you can probably find some of these parts for cheaper somewhere on amazon/ebay and you can save $50 by going for a HDD instead of an SSD)
[url=https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fXkGd6]PC Part Picker List.[/url]
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#2064
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#2063
The G4560 got Hyperthreading which makes significant difference in both TF2 and CS:GO.
The 212 Evo does fuck all.
The thermal paste is just a waste of money.
18$ for a fan.

It's not terrible, but perfect? Definitely not.

Also why would you need a different mobo for an i5 or i7?

#2063
The G4560 got Hyperthreading which makes significant difference in both TF2 and CS:GO.
The 212 Evo does fuck all.
The thermal paste is just a waste of money.
18$ for a fan.

It's not terrible, but perfect? Definitely not.

Also why would you need a different mobo for an i5 or i7?
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#2065
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Setsul#2058
What additional USB ports? 2x USB 3.0 + 2x USB 2.0 on the front panel is about as standard as it gets

The cheaper version of the case (nzxt s340) only has two usb ports on the front.

[quote=Setsul]#2058
What additional USB ports? 2x USB 3.0 + 2x USB 2.0 on the front panel is about as standard as it gets
[/quote]
The cheaper version of the case (nzxt s340) only has two usb ports on the front.
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#2066
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Thinking about upgrading from my garbage laptop
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/colson10/saved/LDDJxr
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/colson10/saved/6QXnQ7
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/colson10/saved/nJwkLk
Which should I build?

Thinking about upgrading from my garbage laptop
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/colson10/saved/LDDJxr
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/colson10/saved/6QXnQ7
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/colson10/saved/nJwkLk
Which should I build?
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#2067
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Hi Setzul, bad day for me :(
I finished the building of my pc and I'm very sure all the pieces are assembled correctly; the problem is: I power on the pc and nothing shows on the monitor like there's something broken in it the pc (or something not compatible).
You can see my build at the top of this page.
My friend says that can be broken motherboard or non compatible rams;
I also tried with the ripjaws ddr4 2x8gb 2400 (which works fine with the very same MOBO) and my pc still dont work.
I'd like to know ur opinion, enlight me please

Hi Setzul, bad day for me :(
I finished the building of my pc and I'm very sure all the pieces are assembled correctly; the problem is: I power on the pc and nothing shows on the monitor like there's something broken in it the pc (or something not compatible).
You can see my build at the top of this page.
My friend says that can be broken motherboard or non compatible rams;
I also tried with the ripjaws ddr4 2x8gb 2400 (which works fine with the very same MOBO) and my pc still dont work.
I'd like to know ur opinion, enlight me please
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#2068
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Does it turn on?
Do the fans run?
Do you hear any beeps?
Do you see any LEDs on the motherboard?
Do you have the monitor hooked up to the video card?

Does it turn on?
Do the fans run?
Do you hear any beeps?
Do you see any LEDs on the motherboard?
Do you have the monitor hooked up to the video card?
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#2069
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yes it turns on, vents run, gpu leds works
yes i hear the beeb
no i can't see led on mobo
yes

yes it turns on, vents run, gpu leds works
yes i hear the beeb
no i can't see led on mobo
yes
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#2070
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#2065
I was confused because you asked about microATX cases.

#2066
#2 is terrible.
#1 and #3 are for different budgets and purposes. You have specified neither.

#2067/#2069
Are you absolutely sure it's the GPU and not the mobo?
Did you select the correct input on the monitor?
Is the monitor plugged in and turned on?

Did you update the BIOS yet? For the 7700 you might need to update the BIOS on the B150M Pro4S.

#2065
I was confused because you asked about microATX cases.

#2066
#2 is terrible.
#1 and #3 are for different budgets and purposes. You have specified neither.

#2067/#2069
Are you absolutely sure it's the GPU and not the mobo?
Did you select the correct input on the monitor?
Is the monitor plugged in and turned on?

Did you update the BIOS yet? For the 7700 you might need to update the BIOS on the B150M Pro4S.
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