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961
#961
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#959
Fallout 4 1080p 60fps on Ultra.

#960
I didn't want to overcomplicate matters.
The i5-6600K and i7-6700K are the only ones that are shipped without a cooler and honestly, someone who got either of those but no aftermarket cooler probably fucked up somewhere else aswell, along the lines of not getting a Z mobo or something like that.

#959
Fallout 4 1080p 60fps on Ultra.

#960
I didn't want to overcomplicate matters.
The i5-6600K and i7-6700K are the only ones that are shipped without a cooler and honestly, someone who got either of those but no aftermarket cooler probably fucked up somewhere else aswell, along the lines of not getting a Z mobo or something like that.
962
#962
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Is there anything better than g3258 for TF2 right now, or is it still the king in sub 100 euro CPU range?

Is there anything better than g3258 for TF2 right now, or is it still the king in sub 100 euro CPU range?
963
#963
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#962
If you're willing to overclock, no.
There's nothing but Pentiums in the "sub 100 euro CPU range" so highest clockrate wins.

#962
If you're willing to overclock, no.
There's nothing but Pentiums in the "sub 100 euro CPU range" so highest clockrate wins.
964
#964
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Well, there is Athlon 860k, which is also overclockable + it has 4 cores, but I guess AMD CPUs are not really good for TF2, right?

Well, there is Athlon 860k, which is also overclockable + it has 4 cores, but I guess AMD CPUs are not really good for TF2, right?
965
#965
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#964
Honestly, I never tested it. Going by the data I have gathered on TF2 multithreading and a rough single threaded comparision between the two my educated guess is that overclocked the G3258 wins by a decent margin. On stock clocks the 860K might win, but it's close.

#964
Honestly, I never tested it. Going by the data I have gathered on TF2 multithreading and a rough single threaded comparision between the two my educated guess is that overclocked the G3258 wins by a decent margin. On stock clocks the 860K might win, but it's close.
966
#966
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Alright, I thought maybe something interesting has come out for 1.5 years since g3258 release.

Alright, I thought maybe something interesting has come out for 1.5 years since g3258 release.
967
#967
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HpyX4D

I'm mostly using it to play tf2/csgo,but I might branch into other games later
was wondering if that'd be decent enough to get like 150+ fps on like 1920x1080
also would I need a cooler or anything like that (not planning to oc)
pretty new to this so any help at all would be much appreciated
thanks :)
oh yeah budget is around $700

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HpyX4D

I'm mostly using it to play tf2/csgo,but I might branch into other games later
was wondering if that'd be decent enough to get like 150+ fps on like 1920x1080
also would I need a cooler or anything like that (not planning to oc)
pretty new to this so any help at all would be much appreciated
thanks :)
oh yeah budget is around $700
968
#968
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PhantaZmhttp://pcpartpicker.com/p/HpyX4D

I'm mostly using it to play tf2/csgo,but I might branch into other games later
was wondering if that'd be decent enough to get like 150+ fps on like 1920x1080
also would I need a cooler or anything like that (not planning to oc)
pretty new to this so any help at all would be much appreciated
thanks :)
oh yeah budget is around $700

That processor does pretty well with source games, that case is awesome, did a build in it just a few days ago. I would suggest getting the full atx H97 mobo rather than the micro atx, it will look off in a full atx case with a window, plus the atx H97 has more features anyway. And you might as well get matching blue ram, idk aesthetics are nice when they aren't any more expensive (you will be seeing the inside because of the window)

[quote=PhantaZm]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HpyX4D

I'm mostly using it to play tf2/csgo,but I might branch into other games later
was wondering if that'd be decent enough to get like 150+ fps on like 1920x1080
also would I need a cooler or anything like that (not planning to oc)
pretty new to this so any help at all would be much appreciated
thanks :)
oh yeah budget is around $700[/quote]
That processor does pretty well with source games, that case is awesome, did a build in it just a few days ago. I would suggest getting the full atx H97 mobo rather than the micro atx, it will look off in a full atx case with a window, plus the atx H97 has more features anyway. And you might as well get matching blue ram, idk aesthetics are nice when they aren't any more expensive (you will be seeing the inside because of the window)
969
#969
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Really dont want to make a new thread so Im just gonna post here.
Specs:
CPU: i7 4770k 3.9ghz (turboboost enabled)
GPU: GIGABYTE GTX760 2GB GDDR5 OC Rev 2.0
RAM: 2x KINGSTON HYPERX 4GB 1600MHZ DDR3
MOBO: ASROCK Z87M PRO4
PSU: CORSAIR TX750W (~4 years old)
OS: WINDOWS 10 PRO 64bit
SSD: SAMSUNG 840 PRO SERIES
HDD: WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR BLUE 1TB

So my problem is that Im getting worse fps in tf2 and csgo than I should really get. For example in csgo benchmark map I get fps around 170 while my friend with win10, i5 4690k and gtx 660 gets +200 fps. Only difference is that he runs lower resolution than me. I've tried different settings (lower/higher) without any notable changes in fps.
In tf2 I get +200fps in 8 player dm, 120-200fps in pubs. Tried different settings without any real fps gains, getting a bit better fps with dx81.
Cpu and gpu temps are fine, only thing I've noticed is that my gpu usage jumps around 30-99% while playing.
Mostly stays around 50-60% usage. I know both games are cpu heavy. I know my fps is still playable, but it bothers me how "worse" pc build can get better fps than me.
What could cause this? All power settings are on performance, done clean install on nvidia drivers, reinstalled windows and so on. Pls help.

Other games seems to work fine (Fallout 4)

Really dont want to make a new thread so Im just gonna post here.
Specs:
CPU: i7 4770k 3.9ghz (turboboost enabled)
GPU: GIGABYTE GTX760 2GB GDDR5 OC Rev 2.0
RAM: 2x KINGSTON HYPERX 4GB 1600MHZ DDR3
MOBO: ASROCK Z87M PRO4
PSU: CORSAIR TX750W (~4 years old)
OS: WINDOWS 10 PRO 64bit
SSD: SAMSUNG 840 PRO SERIES
HDD: WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR BLUE 1TB

So my problem is that Im getting worse fps in tf2 and csgo than I should really get. For example in csgo benchmark map I get fps around 170 while my friend with win10, i5 4690k and gtx 660 gets +200 fps. Only difference is that he runs lower resolution than me. I've tried different settings (lower/higher) without any notable changes in fps.
In tf2 I get +200fps in 8 player dm, 120-200fps in pubs. Tried different settings without any real fps gains, getting a bit better fps with dx81.
Cpu and gpu temps are fine, only thing I've noticed is that my gpu usage jumps around 30-99% while playing.
Mostly stays around 50-60% usage. I know both games are cpu heavy. I know my fps is still playable, but it bothers me how "worse" pc build can get better fps than me.
What could cause this? All power settings are on performance, done clean install on nvidia drivers, reinstalled windows and so on. Pls help.

Other games seems to work fine (Fallout 4)
970
#970
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#966
Interesting things only happen when there's competition.
ZEN 2016
GET HYPE

#967
Might aswell max out the budget, go Skylake and get an SSD.
Before you protest, you don't need 4GB VRAM on 1080p. http://www.teamfortress.tv/post/514892/pc-build-thread

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($76.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 380 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($152.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($37.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $695.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-09 14:26 EST-0500

If you're willing to stretch the budget or sacrifice something else you can get an i5-6600. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QNy4Hx

#969
Try on that lower resolution before jumping to any conclusions.

#966
Interesting things only happen when there's competition.
ZEN 2016
GET HYPE

#967
Might aswell max out the budget, go Skylake and get an SSD.
Before you protest, you don't need 4GB VRAM on 1080p. http://www.teamfortress.tv/post/514892/pc-build-thread

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N98JJx]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N98JJx/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662i56500]Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gab150md3h]Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard[/url] ($76.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f42400c15d8gnt]G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory[/url] ($43.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($77.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($45.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r9380p2255]XFX Radeon R9 380 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card[/url] ($152.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-cas340wb1]NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10500kr]EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($37.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $695.79
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-09 14:26 EST-0500[/i]

If you're willing to stretch the budget or sacrifice something else you can get an i5-6600. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QNy4Hx

#969
Try on that lower resolution before jumping to any conclusions.
971
#971
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Thanks setsul and lias for the advice I'll keep them in mind

Would it be more beneficial to have a better CPU or GPU in case I want to get into newer games/ future releases. I'm thinking GPU which is why I had the 4GB VRAM. I'm thinking about cutting the SSD for it because I don't really mind slower start up and loading times. (I should probably mention that I don't really mind playing on low ish settings i'm not looking for like super high settings in new games and stuff)

Again, thanks for any help

Thanks setsul and lias for the advice I'll keep them in mind

Would it be more beneficial to have a better CPU or GPU in case I want to get into newer games/ future releases. I'm thinking GPU which is why I had the 4GB VRAM. I'm thinking about cutting the SSD for it because I don't really mind slower start up and loading times. (I should probably mention that I don't really mind playing on low ish settings i'm not looking for like super high settings in new games and stuff)

Again, thanks for any help
972
#972
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#971
Depends on the game, but generally GPU, yes.
I'm not sure if you understood what I said. 4GB vs 2GB VRAM is the same as a 4TB vs a 2TB HDD. It's not any faster. If you don't need it it's just a waste of money. And on 1080p 2GB VRAM is plenty.
Yes, newer games would benefit from a better GPU (better GPU, not more VRAM), for example you could get a 380X.
But you don't need to. As I've mentioned before 380 = Fallout 4 1080p Ultra ~60fps. So on "low-ish settings" I don't see any problems for years to come.
On the CPU side you're safe, too.

There's just no need to sacrifice far lower loading times (affects all programs) for 10% more fps if you're already getting far more than 60 fps on mid settings in all games, even 60 fps on max in some games.

#971
Depends on the game, but generally GPU, yes.
I'm not sure if you understood what I said. 4GB vs 2GB VRAM is the same as a 4TB vs a 2TB HDD. It's not any faster. If you don't need it it's just a waste of money. And on 1080p 2GB VRAM is plenty.
Yes, newer games would benefit from a better GPU (better GPU, not more VRAM), for example you could get a 380X.
But you don't need to. As I've mentioned before 380 = Fallout 4 1080p Ultra ~60fps. So on "low-ish settings" I don't see any problems for years to come.
On the CPU side you're safe, too.

There's just no need to sacrifice far lower loading times (affects all programs) for 10% more fps if you're already getting far more than 60 fps on mid settings in all games, even 60 fps on max in some games.
973
#973
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Setsul#969
Try on that lower resolution before jumping to any conclusions.

Still 30 fps worse than my friends. I managed to rise my average fps by disabling Intel Turbo Boost. On native resolution(1920x1080) I get ~197fps and on my friends resolution(1280x960) I get fps around 200-210.
Strange thing is I get better fps than him on 1920x1080 while he beats me on his 4:3 resolution. All this on cs:go.
I checked my fps again in tf2 without any significant boost. In pubs it dips below 140fps and in dm it jumps around 140-200. No huge difference between dx8 and dx9. When theres no other players around my fps is 400-600. What do? Could faulty pc part cause this? Like my 4 year old psu? Maybe I just give up for now and overclock my cpu in future...

[quote=Setsul]
#969
Try on that lower resolution before jumping to any conclusions.[/quote]
Still 30 fps worse than my friends. I managed to rise my average fps by disabling Intel Turbo Boost. On native resolution(1920x1080) I get ~197fps and on my friends resolution(1280x960) I get fps around 200-210.
Strange thing is I get better fps than him on 1920x1080 while he beats me on his 4:3 resolution. All this on cs:go.
I checked my fps again in tf2 without any significant boost. In pubs it dips below 140fps and in dm it jumps around 140-200. No huge difference between dx8 and dx9. When theres no other players around my fps is 400-600. What do? Could faulty pc part cause this? Like my 4 year old psu? Maybe I just give up for now and overclock my cpu in future...
974
#974
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#973
PSU doesn't affect fps.
I forgot to ask the most important thing: Did he overclock?

#973
PSU doesn't affect fps.
I forgot to ask the most important thing: Did he overclock?
975
#975
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Nope hes running stock clocks.
Also I did benchmark tf2 with the timedemo thingy and got results:

dxlevel 81 1920x1080
2639 frames 11.538 seconds 228.72 fps ( 4.37 ms/f) 15.765 fps variability

Which seems to be fine, so maybe Im just overreacting. Replaced my old autoexec.cfg with clean Comanglia's fps config before doing the benchmark tho.

Nope hes running stock clocks.
Also I did benchmark tf2 with the timedemo thingy and got results:
[quote]dxlevel 81 1920x1080
2639 frames 11.538 seconds 228.72 fps ( 4.37 ms/f) 15.765 fps variability
[/quote]
Which seems to be fine, so maybe Im just overreacting. Replaced my old autoexec.cfg with clean Comanglia's fps config before doing the benchmark tho.
976
#976
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I'm planning on building a desktop computer this Christmas for 1080p gaming for AAA games like Witcher 3, Just Cause 3 and Battlefield 4, and Overwatch, TF2, CS:GO, DotA 2, Civilization V, etc - until now I've always played on laptops. My budget is around 700-750€. Need the computer itself and a 1080p monitor. Having read through this thread and done some research, I'm currently looking at this build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($129.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B150M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($55.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($72.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $609.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-12 07:38 EST-0500

and this monitor: http://www.globaldata.pt/perifericos/monitores/monitor-aoc-22-g2260vwq6-1ms.html

In a total of 764.44€

I live in Portugal, so would mostly be looking at http://www.kuantokusta.pt/ for the parts. http://www.globaldata.pt/christmas-sales has some Christmas deals this upcoming week, so I would probably end up buying the Asus Strix R9 380, the Cooler Master N200, the AOC G2260VWQ6 monitor and possibly a motherboard from them. I can't find the cheap DDR4 version of the Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H on KuantoKusta so I'm not quite sure which motherboard to choose.

Any help is appreciated.

I'm planning on building a desktop computer this Christmas for 1080p gaming for AAA games like Witcher 3, Just Cause 3 and Battlefield 4, and Overwatch, TF2, CS:GO, DotA 2, Civilization V, etc - until now I've always played on laptops. My budget is around 700-750€. Need the computer itself and a 1080p monitor. Having read through this thread and done some research, I'm currently looking at this build:

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jXK2vK]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jXK2vK/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662i36100]Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor[/url] ($129.89 @ OutletPC)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-b150mbazooka]MSI B150M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard[/url] ($84.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-hx424c15fbk28]Kingston FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory[/url] ($55.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($45.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-strixr9380dc2oc2gd5gaming]Asus Radeon R9 380 2GB Video Card[/url] ($189.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1]Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($29.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-xfxts550w]XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($72.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $609.71
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-12 07:38 EST-0500[/i]

and this monitor: http://www.globaldata.pt/perifericos/monitores/monitor-aoc-22-g2260vwq6-1ms.html

In a total of 764.44€

I live in Portugal, so would mostly be looking at http://www.kuantokusta.pt/ for the parts. http://www.globaldata.pt/christmas-sales has some Christmas deals this upcoming week, so I would probably end up buying the Asus Strix R9 380, the Cooler Master N200, the AOC G2260VWQ6 monitor and possibly a motherboard from them. I can't find the cheap DDR4 version of the Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H on KuantoKusta so I'm not quite sure which motherboard to choose.

Any help is appreciated.
977
#977
0 Frags +

My friend asked my for help with his new PC, budget about 450 € (will be buying from Czech dealer, so prices are a bit higher)
Playing TF2, CS:GO, OW, some school stuff
CPU: Intel Core i3-4170
GPU: MSI R7 250 2GD3 OC
MB: ASUS H81M-K - Intel H81
PSU: Chieftec iARENA GPA-400B8 400W
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB DDR3 1600
Storage: WD Caviar Blue EX - 1TB
Case: Evolveo R05
(Reusing Win)
This is about 380 €, I'm concidering should he get better GPU (ASUS R7 360-OC-2GD5 ?) or SSD?
Is this build good?
Thanks :)

My friend asked my for help with his new PC, budget about 450 € (will be buying from Czech dealer, so prices are a bit higher)
Playing TF2, CS:GO, OW, some school stuff
CPU: Intel Core i3-4170
GPU: MSI R7 250 2GD3 OC
MB: ASUS H81M-K - Intel H81
PSU: Chieftec iARENA GPA-400B8 400W
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB DDR3 1600
Storage: WD Caviar Blue EX - 1TB
Case: Evolveo R05
(Reusing Win)
This is about 380 €, I'm concidering should he get better GPU (ASUS R7 360-OC-2GD5 ?) or SSD?
Is this build good?
Thanks :)
978
#978
3 Frags +

#975
I guess that means the problem is "solved".

#976
KuantaKusto doesn't even have an LGA1151 category yet so they might've not added it to the database yet. Check some shops directly.
One alternative would be the B150M Pro4S.
Also slightly cheaper PSU, same platform: Seasonic S12II 430W.

#977
GPU is pretty weak. We're talking "struggling to get 40fps in OW on low"-weak. 360 is ok, 260 might be cheaper though. The 250 is just too far down, even the 255 is ~30% faster, 260/360 ~100% faster.
Mobo is seriously cut down. I understand you want to save money, but this is too much, I mean PCIe 2.0? Cut any more corners and it's a circle.
PSU is horrible. I'm not kidding. It's not even 80 Plus. 80 Plus Bronze is pretty much the minimum acceptable today and this one doesn't pass the base 80 Plus. I've got a 16 year old PSU lying around that's better than this one.
Seagate Barracuda might be cheaper.
Haven't checked the case.

#975
I guess that means the problem is "solved".

#976
KuantaKusto doesn't even have an LGA1151 category yet so they might've not added it to the database yet. Check some shops directly.
One alternative would be the [url=http://www.kuantokusta.pt/informatica/Componentes/Motherboards/AsRock-B150M-Pro4S-p-1-438030]B150M Pro4S[/url].
Also slightly cheaper PSU, same platform: [url=http://www.kuantokusta.pt/informatica/Caixas/Fontes-de-Alimentacao/Seasonic-S12II-GB-430W-80-Plus-Bronze-SS-430GB-F3-p-1-352233]Seasonic S12II 430W[/url].

#977
GPU is pretty weak. We're talking "struggling to get 40fps in OW on low"-weak. 360 is ok, 260 might be cheaper though. The 250 is just too far down, even the 255 is ~30% faster, 260/360 ~100% faster.
Mobo is seriously cut down. I understand you want to save money, but this is too much, I mean PCIe 2.0? Cut any more corners and it's a circle.
PSU is horrible. I'm not kidding. It's not even 80 Plus. 80 Plus Bronze is pretty much the minimum acceptable today and this one doesn't pass the base 80 Plus. I've got a 16 year old PSU lying around that's better than this one.
Seagate Barracuda might be cheaper.
Haven't checked the case.
979
#979
0 Frags +

I am going to be rebuilding my PC on the LGA 2011-v3 platform soon and i have a few questions.
What is the best x99 motherboard for around 200 USD?
Can i buy only 2 sticks and run them in dual channel for now and buy 2 more stick later for quad or does it require at least 4 sticks to boot?

I am going to be rebuilding my PC on the LGA 2011-v3 platform soon and i have a few questions.
What is the best x99 motherboard for around 200 USD?
Can i buy only 2 sticks and run them in dual channel for now and buy 2 more stick later for quad or does it require at least 4 sticks to boot?
980
#980
0 Frags +
Setsul#977
GPU is pretty weak. We're talking "struggling to get 40fps in OW on low"-weak. 360 is ok, 260 might be cheaper though. The 250 is just too far down, even the 255 is ~30% faster, 260/360 ~100% faster.
Mobo is seriously cut down. I understand you want to save money, but this is too much, I mean PCIe 2.0? Cut any more corners and it's a circle.
PSU is horrible. I'm not kidding. It's not even 80 Plus. 80 Plus Bronze is pretty much the minimum acceptable today and this one doesn't pass the base 80 Plus. I've got a 16 year old PSU lying around that's better than this one.
Seagate Barracuda might be cheaper.
Haven't checked the case.

Thanks!
Changed GPU to 360
Yea, I know PSU and MB are really shit, but he wanted to save money anywhere possible, returning to original MSI B85M-P33 V3 - Intel B85 and Seasonic S12II-430 430W
Now we're about 1 500 CZK (55 €) over budged but whatever :)

[quote=Setsul]
#977
GPU is pretty weak. We're talking "struggling to get 40fps in OW on low"-weak. 360 is ok, 260 might be cheaper though. The 250 is just too far down, even the 255 is ~30% faster, 260/360 ~100% faster.
Mobo is seriously cut down. I understand you want to save money, but this is too much, I mean PCIe 2.0? Cut any more corners and it's a circle.
PSU is horrible. I'm not kidding. It's not even 80 Plus. 80 Plus Bronze is pretty much the minimum acceptable today and this one doesn't pass the base 80 Plus. I've got a 16 year old PSU lying around that's better than this one.
Seagate Barracuda might be cheaper.
Haven't checked the case.[/quote]
Thanks!
Changed GPU to 360
Yea, I know PSU and MB are really shit, but he wanted to save money anywhere possible, returning to original MSI B85M-P33 V3 - Intel B85 and Seasonic S12II-430 430W
Now we're about 1 500 CZK (55 €) over budged but whatever :)
981
#981
3 Frags +

#979
So that's why you needed money. How's luxors' anime stash?

Best depends on why you need LGA2011-3. Generally there's 3 reasons:
1. Bragging rights. ->flashiest or cheapest
2. 8 cores. ->any will do, maybe pay some attention to the VRMs for overclocking
3. 40 PCIe lanes. ->microATX obviously won't do (conflict with 1.2)

It would boot even with just one stick. But you should ask yourself these two questions, if you're willing to go with two sticks for now:
1. Do you even need twice the capacity? If you definitely want Quad Channel and still want to be able to upgrade later there's mobos with 8 slots.
2. Can you even afford LGA2011-3 if you have to cut cost on the RAM?

#980
Which shop? Forgot to ask that, but you seem to be doing well without that specific advice anyway.
Just one more thing, the 260X or 265, which are better than the 360, might be cheaper or the same price.

#979
So that's why you needed money. How's luxors' anime stash?

Best depends on why you need LGA2011-3. Generally there's 3 reasons:
1. Bragging rights. ->flashiest or cheapest
2. 8 cores. ->any will do, maybe pay some attention to the VRMs for overclocking
3. 40 PCIe lanes. ->microATX obviously won't do (conflict with 1.2)

It would boot even with just one stick. But you should ask yourself these two questions, if you're willing to go with two sticks for now:
1. Do you even need twice the capacity? If you definitely want Quad Channel and still want to be able to upgrade later there's mobos with 8 slots.
2. Can you even afford LGA2011-3 if you have to cut cost on the RAM?

#980
Which shop? Forgot to ask that, but you seem to be doing well without that specific advice anyway.
Just one more thing, the 260X or 265, which are better than the 360, might be cheaper or the same price.
982
#982
0 Frags +
Setsul#980
Which shop? Forgot to ask that, but you seem to be doing well without that specific advice anyway.
Just one more thing, the 260X or 265, which are better than the 360, might be cheaper or the same price.

Shop CZC.cz 2nd biggest PC-and-stuff shop in Czechia
Alright went with Sapphire R7 260X, seems 265 are out of stock
Thank you again

Now question to MY xmas present should I get Intel Xeon E3-1231v3 or Intel Core i5-4690K?
(Not getting new series, will be reusing RAM)
Usage: gaming, shitty quality streaming, video/photo editing.
Will be buying GPU later using money from my part-job (380 probably)
Thanks

[quote=Setsul]
#980
Which shop? Forgot to ask that, but you seem to be doing well without that specific advice anyway.
Just one more thing, the 260X or 265, which are better than the 360, might be cheaper or the same price.[/quote]
Shop CZC.cz 2nd biggest PC-and-stuff shop in Czechia
Alright went with Sapphire R7 260X, seems 265 are out of stock
Thank you again

Now question to MY xmas present should I get Intel Xeon E3-1231v3 or Intel Core i5-4690K?
(Not getting new series, will be reusing RAM)
Usage: gaming, shitty quality streaming, video/photo editing.
Will be buying GPU later using money from my part-job (380 probably)
Thanks
983
#983
0 Frags +
Setsul#979
Best depends on why you need LGA2011-3.

It was cheaper than skylake when i picked out the parts. The price of the 6700k is ridiculously inflated right now and it doesn't look much faster than Haswell.

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130812

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231964

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117402

SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147466

Does this all look good to you our do you know of cheaper options that wont make any significant sacrifices?

[quote=Setsul]#979
Best depends on why you need LGA2011-3.[/quote]
It was cheaper than skylake when i picked out the parts. The price of the 6700k is ridiculously inflated right now and it doesn't look much faster than Haswell.

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130812

Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231964

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117402

SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147466

Does this all look good to you our do you know of cheaper options that wont make any significant sacrifices?
984
#984
3 Frags +

#982
You have to consider the cost of and time needed for overclocking as well.
For games an overclocked i5-4690K would be better. It should still be able to handle "shitty quality streaming".

#983
Lol 700$ for a 6700K.

Cheapest options would be:
1. wait until the 6700K is back in stock or
2. get one from microcenter https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcproxy

If you're sure about LGA2011-3 I'd go with this.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($372.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-UD3P (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($143.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: PNY Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($190.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $780.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-14 16:13 EST-0500

#982
You have to consider the cost of and time needed for overclocking as well.
For games an overclocked i5-4690K would be better. It should still be able to handle "shitty quality streaming".

#983
Lol 700$ for a 6700K.

Cheapest options would be:
1. wait until the 6700K is back in stock or
2. get one from microcenter https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcproxy

If you're sure about LGA2011-3 I'd go with this.
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gFTDP6]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gFTDP6/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80648i75820k]Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor[/url] ($372.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gax99ud3prev10]Gigabyte GA-X99-UD3P (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard[/url] ($143.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/pny-memory-md16gk2d4240015ar]PNY Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory[/url] ($72.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mzv5p256bw]Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive[/url] ($190.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Total:[/b] $780.95
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-14 16:13 EST-0500[/i]
985
#985
0 Frags +

Would it be safe to take the heat spreaders off that ram? It needs to fit under a Phanteks PH-TC14PE.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211905

These look even cheaper if i can remove them.

Would it be safe to take the heat spreaders off that ram? It needs to fit under a Phanteks PH-TC14PE.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211905

These look even cheaper if i can remove them.
986
#986
0 Frags +

Setsul,

I'm hoping to design a build which would accommodate a powerful, tidy performing system for no games. The build would be for simple operations like browsing the web, checking emails or writing documents. I would place emphasis on an fast performing solid state drive. I'm looking for a build that is powerful CPU wise and could potentially save energy where possible. High performance around the operating system would be key but I'd also like valued parts, a noiseless operation and to some degree an energy saving factor. I would not require a monitor, internal hard drive or OS. The graphics card if any, is up to you. Please work your magic. Looking for no higher than perhaps $550 AUD.

Setsul,

I'm hoping to design a build which would accommodate a powerful, tidy performing system for no games. The build would be for simple operations like browsing the web, checking emails or writing documents. I would place emphasis on an fast performing solid state drive. I'm looking for a build that is powerful CPU wise and could potentially save energy where possible. High performance around the operating system would be key but I'd also like valued parts, a noiseless operation and to some degree an energy saving factor. I would not require a monitor, internal hard drive or OS. The graphics card if any, is up to you. Please work your magic. Looking for no higher than perhaps $550 AUD.
987
#987
0 Frags +
deftSetsul,

I'm hoping to design a build which would accommodate a powerful, tidy performing system for no games. The build would be for simple operations like browsing the web, checking emails or writing documents. I would place emphasis on an fast performing solid state drive. I'm looking for a build that is powerful CPU wise and could potentially save energy where possible. High performance around the operating system would be key but I'd also like valued parts, a noiseless operation and to some degree an energy saving factor. I would not require a monitor, internal hard drive or OS. The graphics card if any, is up to you. Please work your magic.

u gotta state your budget

[quote=deft]Setsul,

I'm hoping to design a build which would accommodate a powerful, tidy performing system for no games. The build would be for simple operations like browsing the web, checking emails or writing documents. I would place emphasis on an fast performing solid state drive. I'm looking for a build that is powerful CPU wise and could potentially save energy where possible. High performance around the operating system would be key but I'd also like valued parts, a noiseless operation and to some degree an energy saving factor. I would not require a monitor, internal hard drive or OS. The graphics card if any, is up to you. Please work your magic.[/quote]

u gotta state your budget
988
#988
0 Frags +

#985
Iirc clearance is 40mm, shouldn't be hard to find.
The heatspreaders are usually glued on so I wouldn't try it.

Very few have "removable" heatspreaders where you can remove the top part that would interfere.

http://www.gskill.com/editor_images/Image/remove-2.jpg

The plastic part that wraps around the PCB is always fixed.

#986
What about a CD/DVD drive?
I can't really do noiseless on that budget, but it should be fairly quiet anyway.
SSD size? 120 or 250GB?

deftno higher than perhaps $550 AUD.

So exactly 550$ max or some wiggle room?

#985
Iirc clearance is 40mm, shouldn't be hard to find.
The heatspreaders are usually glued on so I wouldn't try it.

Very few have "removable" heatspreaders where you can remove the top part that would interfere.
[img]http://www.gskill.com/editor_images/Image/remove-2.jpg[/img]
The plastic part that wraps around the PCB is always fixed.

#986
What about a CD/DVD drive?
I can't really do noiseless on that budget, but it should be fairly quiet anyway.
SSD size? 120 or 250GB?
[quote=deft]no higher than perhaps $550 AUD.[/quote]
So exactly 550$ max or some wiggle room?
989
#989
1 Frags +
Setsul #986
What about a CD/DVD drive?
I can't really do noiseless on that budget, but it should be fairly quiet anyway.
SSD size? 120 or 250GB?

CD/DVD: Yes.
Noise: Fairly quiet is fine.
SSD: 250GB.
To be honest, it's really as low as you can get it. I'd say max $550.

[quote=Setsul] #986
What about a CD/DVD drive?
I can't really do noiseless on that budget, but it should be fairly quiet anyway.
SSD size? 120 or 250GB? [/quote]

CD/DVD: Yes.
Noise: Fairly quiet is fine.
SSD: 250GB.
To be honest, it's really as low as you can get it. I'd say max $550.
990
#990
0 Frags +

#989
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3250 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($80.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M-PRO3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.00 @ Umart)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.00 @ PLE Computers)
Case: Silverstone PS09B MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($45.00 @ Storm Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($77.00 @ Umart)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24D3ST DVD/CD Writer ($18.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $479.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-16 01:40 AEDT+1100

Possible upgrades:
Pentium G3258 overclockable
Seasonic G-360 a bit more efficient

#989
[url=http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/6yky6h]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/6yky6h/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646g3250]Intel Pentium G3250 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor[/url] ($80.00 @ CPL Online)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-b85mpro3]ASRock B85M-PRO3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($89.00 @ Umart)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d4gbxl]G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($41.00 @ IJK)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($129.00 @ PLE Computers)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/silverstone-case-ps09b]Silverstone PS09B MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($45.00 @ Storm Computers)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430m]Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($77.00 @ Umart)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-drw24d3st]Asus DRW-24D3ST DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($18.00 @ CPL Online)
[b]Total:[/b] $479.00
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-12-16 01:40 AEDT+1100[/i]

Possible upgrades:
[url=http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646g3258]Pentium G3258[/url] overclockable
[url=http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ssr360gp]Seasonic G-360[/url] a bit more efficient
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