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ghos7 Donation Drive
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#31
-81 Frags +

I know everyone will hate me for saying this; I'm already prepared for it.

I've said it before during the Japanese tsumani aid campaign, and I'll say it again now. There are better ways to spend your money.

What happened to ghos7ayama was tragic. But the true tragedy lies in what happened to his sister, and the emotional pain the family must now undergo. The pain of material loss is much lesser to any reasonable family.

He's already stated that he's not necessarily asking for donations, which implies that his family is prepared to try to make ends meet despites the hardships involved. There are countless others who do not have this luxury.

If you're a personal friend of ghost and simply wish to help him out because that's what friends do, by all means, go ahead. If, however, you're simply caught up in the sudden influx of altruism that you never knew flaring up within you (and if you don't believe this of yourself, ask: when was the last time you donated to an apolitical cause without having been asked? Include donation drive boxes in your query) then I must implore that you redirect your money to a greater cause.

What happened to ghos7ayama is a deep, personal tragedy that I'm very sorry to hear of. People are dying in droves because they're unable to afford the cheapest of vaccines, else starving, or dying from contaminated water.

The difference in the quality of life you can make for these people with the same amount of money that you would have sent to ghost is so vast that it is inhumane. Ghost's family might make part of rent and pay off a slight portion of his debts with a thousand dollars. The same amount could sustain an impoverished village for months.

Gve your money to your own causes. But please, consider what is you're trying to do - to improve the quality of life of a family in ill-fortune. Dumping thousands of dollars to an independent family is not the optimal, or even remotely efficient, way to go about it.

Again, I would like to extend my sincerest apologies to ghos7ayama and his family for daring to even utter such a suggestion.

I know everyone will hate me for saying this; I'm already prepared for it.

I've said it before during the Japanese tsumani aid campaign, and I'll say it again now. There are better ways to spend your money.

What happened to ghos7ayama was tragic. But the true tragedy lies in what happened to his sister, and the emotional pain the family must now undergo. The pain of material loss is much lesser to any reasonable family.

He's already stated that he's not necessarily asking for donations, which implies that his family is prepared to try to make ends meet despites the hardships involved. There are countless others who do not have this luxury.

If you're a personal friend of ghost and simply wish to help him out because that's what friends do, by all means, go ahead. If, however, you're simply caught up in the sudden influx of altruism that you never knew flaring up within you (and if you don't believe this of yourself, ask: when was the last time you donated to an apolitical cause without having been asked? Include donation drive boxes in your query) then I must implore that you redirect your money to a greater cause.

What happened to ghos7ayama is a deep, personal tragedy that I'm very sorry to hear of. People are dying in droves because they're unable to afford the cheapest of vaccines, else starving, or dying from contaminated water.

The difference in the quality of life you can make for these people with the same amount of money that you would have sent to ghost is so vast that it is inhumane. Ghost's family might make part of rent and pay off a slight portion of his debts with a thousand dollars. The same amount could sustain an impoverished village for months.

Gve your money to your own causes. But please, consider what is you're trying to do - to improve the quality of life of a family in ill-fortune. Dumping thousands of dollars to an independent family is not the optimal, or even remotely efficient, way to go about it.

Again, I would like to extend my sincerest apologies to ghos7ayama and his family for daring to even utter such a suggestion.
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#32
2 Frags +
DeepmanaYeah, I can't expect that there would be a goal. Doesn't make sense.

BTW, this is the direct donation link; it's not present in the FAQ at the moment.

http://imraising.com/lange/

It IS present in the FAQ. Just click the I'mRaising pic.

Oh, okay, that's my bad then. I like seeing the links.

[quote=Deep][quote=mana]Yeah, I can't expect that there would be a goal. Doesn't make sense.

BTW, this is the direct donation link; it's not present in the FAQ at the moment.

http://imraising.com/lange/[/quote]

It IS present in the FAQ. Just click the I'mRaising pic.[/quote]
Oh, okay, that's my bad then. I like seeing the links.
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#33
21 Frags +
Snowy-snip-

So even giving just 5 bucks to the guy(the cost of your lunch) isn't going to help? Why the hell not? At least I know where my money is going, and that's DIRECTLY to support Kyle's family. 5$ is nothing, and if everyone on stream could chuck 5$ that's great.

Not to mention this is a community, which means community members help out each other. When we hear someone's hurting in this community, of course we're going to try to help him!

I'm not "spending" my money, I'm helping someone in the TF2 community.

[quote=Snowy]-snip-[/quote]

So even giving just 5 bucks to the guy(the cost of your lunch) isn't going to help? Why the hell not? At least I know where my money is going, and that's DIRECTLY to support Kyle's family. 5$ is nothing, and if everyone on stream could chuck 5$ that's great.

Not to mention this is a [i]community[/i], which means community members help out each other. When we hear someone's hurting in this community, of course we're going to try to help him!

I'm not "spending" my money, I'm helping someone in the TF2 community.
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#34
9 Frags +

$1540...

you guys are fucking awesome.
you guys donate to help someone you *most likely* don't know in real life to help him and his family in a time of need.
you guys are fucking awesome.

$1540...

you guys are fucking awesome.
you guys donate to help someone you *most likely* don't know in real life to help him and his family in a time of need.
you guys are [b]fucking[/b] awesome.
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#35
13 Frags +
Snowyblah

You are talking out of your ass. If people didn't care, they wouldn't donate. They don't pretend to help, they do send hard money which will help.

It makes no sense to say that you are only allowed to donate to charitable events that you are somehow involved with (such as helping someone in the tf2 community) if you already donate money to other charities. Nobody here is sending money to ghos7 (I ssume) that he would otherwise spend on some other charity. Nobody is losing.

[quote=Snowy]blah[/quote]


You are talking out of your ass. If people didn't care, they wouldn't donate. They don't pretend to help, they do send hard money which will help.

It makes no sense to say that you are only allowed to donate to charitable events that you are somehow involved with (such as helping someone in the tf2 community) if you already donate money to other charities. Nobody here is sending money to ghos7 (I ssume) that he would otherwise spend on some other charity. Nobody is losing.
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#36
-13 Frags +

I have no association with GiveWell. I will remove it from the text since it appears to reduce my credibility.

I have no association with GiveWell. I will remove it from the text since it appears to reduce my credibility.
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#37
14 Frags +

I'd like to mention that Lange's stream has made more money than the entire NARevival for CSGO, he's been streaming for just under an hour and a half.

Their stream was 24 hours...

The TF2 community is awesome.

I'd like to mention that Lange's stream has made more money than the entire NARevival for CSGO, he's been streaming for just under an hour and a half.

Their stream was 24 hours...

The TF2 community is awesome.
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#38
11 Frags +
Snowywords

you spend money on video games/computers, don't try and act like you are better/more charitable person

[quote=Snowy]words[/quote]

you spend money on video games/computers, don't try and act like you are better/more charitable person
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#39
13 Frags +
SnowyI have no association with GiveWell. I will remove it from the text since it appears to reduce my credibility.

No, your post does that.

[quote=Snowy]I have no association with GiveWell. I will remove it from the text since it appears to reduce my credibility.[/quote]

No, your post does that.
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#40
11 Frags +

People can donate to whatever the hell they please, thanks.

People can donate to whatever the hell they please, thanks.
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#41
17 Frags +
Lights_The TF2 community is awesome.

The TF2 community has a seemingly infinite pool of spare cash and yet doesn't interest hardware sponsors a fraction of the amount of CS.

[quote=Lights_]The TF2 community is awesome.[/quote]
The TF2 community has a seemingly infinite pool of spare cash and yet doesn't interest hardware sponsors a fraction of the amount of CS.
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#42
7 Frags +

We're up to 2000 in just over an hour.

http://i.imgur.com/0HRMc.png

We're up to 2000 in just over an hour.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/0HRMc.png[/img]
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#43
8 Frags +
atmoLights_The TF2 community is awesome.The TF2 community has a seemingly infinite pool of spare cash and yet doesn't interest hardware sponsors a fraction of the amount of CS.

This is so true. I don't get it.

[quote=atmo][quote=Lights_]The TF2 community is awesome.[/quote]
The TF2 community has a seemingly infinite pool of spare cash and yet doesn't interest hardware sponsors a fraction of the amount of CS.[/quote]
This is so true. I don't get it.
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#44
12 Frags +
Snowyshit nobody wants to read.

Philanthropy isn't about the reward you get, doe.

[quote=Snowy]shit nobody wants to read.[/quote]
Philanthropy isn't about the reward you get, doe.
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#45
3 Frags +

donated

hope it works out

donated

hope it works out
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#46
Twitch
23 Frags +

Community events like this make me realize how much I love you all. The majority of you are fucking awesome people.

Community events like this make me realize how much I love you all. The majority of you are fucking awesome people.
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#47
-14 Frags +
LemonWe're up to 2000 in just over an hour.

http://i.imgur.com/0HRMc.png

k dude we know

[quote=Lemon]We're up to 2000 in just over an hour.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/0HRMc.png[/img][/quote]
k dude we know
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#48
3 Frags +

I actually appreciate the updates, im not at home so i cant watch right now :s

I actually appreciate the updates, im not at home so i cant watch right now :s
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#49
1 Frags +

Someone should make a thread on Reddit. I don't think I could do it justice - I didn't know Ghos7 at all, and it would be wrong of me to pretend that I did. I'll be watching, and perhaps donating too! (Again, I'm young, so no money to give, but I'm publicizing this as much as possible.) I hope the Reddit TF2 Community will respond as kindly and thoughtfully as you here have today.

EDIT: http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1hwiap/raising_money_to_help_kyle_ghos7ayama_marich/
This isn't my post, props to the person who wrote it nearly an hour ago. Please upvote for visibility!

Someone should make a thread on Reddit. I don't think I could do it justice - I didn't know Ghos7 at all, and it would be wrong of me to pretend that I did. I'll be watching, and perhaps donating too! (Again, I'm young, so no money to give, but I'm publicizing this as much as possible.) I hope the Reddit TF2 Community will respond as kindly and thoughtfully as you here have today.

EDIT: http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2/comments/1hwiap/raising_money_to_help_kyle_ghos7ayama_marich/
This isn't my post, props to the person who wrote it nearly an hour ago. Please upvote for visibility!
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#50
3 Frags +

We have more viewers than the highlander game

EDIT: they have 2 more

We have more viewers than the highlander game

EDIT: they have 2 more
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#51
0 Frags +

After the match the viewer (&donor) count should jump up a good bit again.

if Lange can keep it up.

After the match the viewer (&donor) count should jump up a good bit again.

if Lange can keep it up.
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#52
14 Frags +

Wow, that speech ghos7 gave was moving

Wow, that speech ghos7 gave was moving
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#53
5 Frags +
Snowyblah blah blah

does this even need to be said? what does this contribute to the cause? unless this is a carefully constructed plan to completely ostracize yourself from the community.

i never understand why people take this kind of stuff so personally, or feel the need to make long-winded retorts to others efforts. if you don't want to contribute, don't contribute.

[quote=Snowy]blah blah blah[/quote]

does this even need to be said? what does this contribute to the cause? unless this is a carefully constructed plan to completely ostracize yourself from the [b]community[/b].

i never understand why people take this kind of stuff so personally, or feel the need to make long-winded retorts to others efforts. if you don't want to contribute, don't contribute.
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#54
6 Frags +
Snowy-Dumb opinions-

I had a long post written out refuting everything you said, but I decided it'd be better to just tell you you're dumb.

You're dumb.

With that out of my system. I'm Glad to see Ghost's family will be getting some support so they don't lose everything from a split second accident. It's great that people are willing to rally and support someone else for no benefit of their own.

[quote=Snowy]-Dumb opinions-[/quote]

I had a long post written out refuting everything you said, but I decided it'd be better to just tell you you're dumb.

You're dumb.

With that out of my system. I'm Glad to see Ghost's family will be getting some support so they don't lose everything from a split second accident. It's great that people are willing to rally and support someone else for no benefit of their own.
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#55
3 Frags +

wow. lange. everyone who has donated. this is amazing.

wow. lange. everyone who has donated. this is amazing.
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#56
1 Frags +
CondescendingCandlestickWow, that speech ghos7 gave was moving

what? I missed it. :( home now.

[quote=CondescendingCandlestick]Wow, that speech ghos7 gave was moving[/quote]
what? I missed it. :( home now.
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#57
1 Frags +
frknCondescendingCandlestickWow, that speech ghos7 gave was movingwhat? I missed it. :( home now.

He came into mumble and was thanking Lange and the donators for raising over $2400.

[quote=frkn][quote=CondescendingCandlestick]Wow, that speech ghos7 gave was moving[/quote]
what? I missed it. :( home now.[/quote]
He came into mumble and was thanking Lange and the donators for raising over $2400.
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#58
1 Frags +

gib vod timecode plos

gib vod timecode plos
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#59
5 Frags +

http://www.twitch.tv/langeh/b/427755141

1:51:03

http://www.twitch.tv/langeh/b/427755141

1:51:03
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#60
0 Frags +
the301stspartangib vod timecode plos

Right after he starts playing the kawaii anime game
Edit: Ninjad

[quote=the301stspartan]gib vod timecode plos[/quote]
Right after he starts playing the kawaii anime game
Edit: Ninjad
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